Question-and-Answer SessionDaryl BibleSenior EVP & CFO Yes. So I think from where we felt customers from maybe 6 months ago, I would say things are more positive. I think people are addressing the tariffs and people are feeling more comfortable. I wouldn't say the investments are robust, but we are seeing increases now, some of our middle market customers, utilization is going up a little bit, maybe in distribution, [ ABL ]. So I think there's pockets where things are starting to increase and be more positi ...