Let's talk more about all of this, how the trade might work, the risks, and more. Joining us now, Susuana's co-head of derivative strategy, Chris Murphy, and KKM Financial and CEO Jeff Kilberg. Both of them very well known for their current and former options focus. Chris, I'm going to start with you. You are an options guru now. How what first off, what's your just general take on this trade? And secondly, why do you think you would use options and not equity? >> Hey, Brian. Uh, well, you kind of hit the n ...