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Energy Services of America Corporation (ESOA) FY Conference Transcript

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Here to speak on behalf and I should also mention, one, they are a client of ours, so if you have any questions after the presentation, or you'd like to set something up after the after today, happy to work on that with you. And secondly, the company was added to the Russell 2,000 here at the June, so really good accomplishment to be able to wave that flag. Here today to present on the company behalf is Charles Grimmel, the company's CFO. Charles? Speaker1 Thank you, John. John mentioned, my name is Charles Kremel. I'm the CFO for Energy Services of America. It's always great to enjoy coming to these conferences, getting to meet people, tell people about energy services. Hopefully, is it not too early for some audience participation, is it? So let can I get a show of hands? How many of all are familiar with energy services? Okay. How many of you guys are saying, hey, who are these guys and what do they do? Good. We get that a lot. People kind of look at our structure and they're kind of like, I don't, you know, Tom here is a good example. He's like, what do you guys do? What is your vision? What is your plan? So I've kind of tried to get into that a little bit and we can maybe address some of that in the Q and A. But what we are is we are a contractor based out of Huntington, West Virginia. We're primarily in the natural gas and petroleum transmission fields. We also have work in the water and natural gas distribution. And then we also have another sector that we identify then as more of our industrial type of work that can be involved in the water I'm sorry, the power, automotive, chemical, steel manufacturing work. And then from there, you know, within that we do electrical, mechanical, piping, HVAC, fire protection type of work. So we are kind of a conglomerate of companies. Amazingly, it does all kind of work together in what we do. We have companies that do work with some of the same customers. But then again, we also have opportunities that we can create within the companies to through our general contractor and to bring NITRO into more some of the commercial space, where they're working in schools and such doing electrical HVAC there too, just to give them a little more exposure and a little more variety on their work. So we'll get into the presentation here a little bit. As you can see, we do have a list there of about six to eight companies. There's probably even a few on there that fit under NYSRO that we don't have listed. We'll kind of go through and kind of tell you about how everything just kind of fits together. But last year we did about 352,000,000inrevenueand352,000,000 in revenue and 29,000,000 in adjusted EBITDA. As you can see there, we are September 30 filer. So we right now are working in our fourth fiscal year quarter. And then also this is kind of our, our busiest peak of the construction season the time between July and August, I'm sorry July, September, even going into October and into November some. Roughly we have about 1,400 employees and again, we work in the natural gas, petroleum, chemical, automotive, water, wastewater sectors. Some of our investment highlights here. Of course, you know, one of the biggest things for us is our relationships with our customers. That's a big driver for us in helping us get work, keeping our customers happy. Our backlog has steadily been increasing. We had about a 3.003.00 4,000,000 backlog that we reported as of June. Of that, roughly about 100 and 25, I believe, is in water. About 100,000,000 of it is in our industrial services group. So we are, you know, obviously been very successful picking up work and we're very optimistic about the opportunities we're seeing for the future. We also have been very active in expanding some of our geographical reach within Nitro. They have a company that works up in Battle Creek, Michigan, kind of right there in the heart of the automotive side, the food producer side. So we think that we've kind of got that going in the right direction and we think that's going to start to contribute well to Nitro's performance here in the future. Also, we've been active on the mergers and acquisitions side. We've added, I think we've completed about four acquisitions to add to our West Virginia Pipeline, the Tri State Paving Company. We started off our own general contractor. And then in roughly. Got about 700,000 shares left on that. We do pay a dividend. We pay a quarterly dividend of 3¢ per share. You can see our geographical reach here anywhere between New York down Alabama. We are in the Carolinas, Tennessee, as far West as maybe Indiana, Illinois. We do have some operations up in Michigan. This right here is probably not as far as potentially we could go. But a lot of it's going to depend on our customers with our general contractors. We're not looking necessarily to just to add more states, but as someone like a Walbridge or somebody says, hey, Nitro, we want you to go with us, come down to Tennessee, let's go to North Carolina, let's go whatever state we got a project we want you to work on with us. That's typically where we're going to expand our geographical reach is through our working with our general contractors and then working with our customers that want us to go a Toyota per se may want us to go to Georgetown, Kentucky, want us to go down to Huntsville, Alabama, go down to Liberty, North Carolina. So that's been very, our relationships with our customers and our general contractors are very important to us. Again, will mention that we've had some a lot of M and A opportunities and things that we've gotten closed in the past. You see here is a list of some of our customers. American Water is a big customer for us working both in Charleston, West Virginia and in Lexington, Kentucky. Toyota has been a long standing customer for Nitro. Nitro started there in, I believe, 1997, building a, helped build the plant in Buffalo, West Virginia and they have not left that facility since then. So roughly about twenty eight years, Nitro has been involved with Toyota. Mountaineer Gas is a big customer for us, Dow. So you see our exposure there is in the, we TC Energy, NISource in the transmission side of the gas distribution, Mountaineer Gas in the distribution side. Then the chemical companies, Dow, Clairon type of things. So we have a broad exposure to a lot of customers, have a lot of diversity of services that we provide within the company. CJ Hughes is one of the flagship companies. Just to give you a little bit of a background on Energy Services of America, it was started in 2006 as a SPAC company. CJ Hughes is one of the companies that came in at that time that was purchased. And Nitro was a subsidiary of CJ Hughes. So those two companies came in together. There was also a third company came in that was very much heavily weighted on the gas transmission side. And so the theory behind the SPAC was then to look at opportunities in the Marcellus and Utica Shale areas in West Virginia and Ohio. Didn't really pan out as expected, really not just for us, but a lot of other contractors did not do well at that time either. So, if you move forward to about 2011 or so, we had some suffered some significant losses on projects. We had gone in forbearance with our bank when when you were restructuring. Came out of it. Decided we're going to get back to basics and so we went from a company that was heavily focused being on the transmission side to a company that was looking to more diversify its services to try to still work in transmission but limit our risk to help also, you know, build and grow our our water distribution services to grow our gas distribution services and to grow our nitro industrial group. So as you see here, CJ has been a company that's been around for, you know, since 1946, believe over seventy years they've been around. And so it's almost to the point where with a lot of our customers, I mean, know ESA is the holding company, but their relationship is with CJ Hughes. It's with Nitro. It's with West Virginia Pipeline. And so that's why, you know, one of the reasons people kind of say, why do you have all these companies and such? I think a lot of it has to do with just the familiarity with our customers and knowing these companies that they've been dealing with for a long time. And also part of it is that we have a lot of different labor solutions. So CJ then is they're a union contractor. They are signatory to the steel workers. The steel workers are the ones who work on the gas distribution and on the water distribution side of it. CJ also has a subsidiary underneath of it called Contractors Rental that when they get into the transmission side is they hire through the building trades and they're signatory to the PLCA agreements. So CJ has two different options there with their labor force. They have a lower cost steel worker side and they have a building tray side where you need more skill type of work on some of the transmission work. And what also that allows you to do then is being on that side is you can go a little bit further away from home. It's easier to beef up your workforce when you're going through the coming through the union halls. And so that's kind of the way the CJ is structured and how they suit their customers' needs. So Nitro Construction, as I said, that was one that came into the ESA underneath the CJ Hughes back in 02/2008. Nitro again is a company that has been around since 1959. I've been around Nitro well before I started with ESA. I've been around Nitro for almost thirty years now. And they they have gone growing tremendously back when I kind of started there. They were they were strictly a electrical contractor, subcontractor that worked for their parent company, Uniboiler. Did anywhere, I don't know, maybe 15,000,000inrevenueayear.</doc><docid=22>Overtheyears,CJ,Imsorry,Nitrohasbranchedout,becomemuchmorethanjustanelectricalprimarilyamaintenancecontractordoingintheneighborhoodof15,000,000 in revenue a year.</doc> <doc id='22'>Over the years, CJ, I'm sorry, Nitro has branched out, become much more than just an electrical primarily a maintenance contractor doing in the neighborhood of 50,000,000 55,000,000ofmaintenanceworkingheretobeingacompanynowthatspushing55,000,000 of maintenance working here to being a company now that's pushing 100,000,000 I'm sorry. Can I get you closer to that? They're pushing more 100,000,000inrevenueandaddedalayerofconstructionservicesontopofit.Obviously,itmakesthemmorethepotentialformoreprofitmarginthanaddingthenewconstructionontopofthegeneralmaintenancestuff.SQPConstructionGroupisthegeneralcontractorthatwestartedupbackin,Icantremember,maybeits02/2001.</doc><docid=23>WhatwesawtherewasaneedinthemarketplacebecausetherighttoworklawswerechanginginWestVirginiaandKentucky.Soitmadeitmoreadvantageousthenforthenonunioncontractorsandgeneralcontractorsinthearea.AnditkindofstifledsomeoftheabilityforNitrotogetintocommercialwork.TheyremuchbiggerthanthelocalGCsinthearea,madeitharderforNitrotogettheirfootinthedoorforsomeofthem,obviouslynotwantingtodealwithabiggergorilla,someonetheyreallycouldntpusharound.Andsowesawaneedforustostartup,spinupourowngeneralcontractorthere.</doc><docid=24>SoSQPdoesalotofworkinschoolwork,correctionalfacilitywork,docivilwork,youknow,gettingintosomesmallbridgework,butalsowhatitallowsustodothenistofeedcommercialopportunitiestoNitro.Sowhetherthatbeontheelectricalside,thepipingside,HVAC,thefireprotectionthenthatNitrocouldpossiblydosomewhereabout8,000,000to100,000,000 in revenue and added a layer of construction services on top of it. Obviously, it makes them more the potential for more profit margin than adding the new construction on top of the general maintenance stuff. SQP Construction Group is the general contractor that we started up back in, I can't remember, maybe it's 02/2001.</doc> <doc id='23'>What we saw there was a need in the marketplace because the right to work laws were changing in West Virginia and Kentucky. So it made it more advantageous then for the non union contractors and general contractors in the area. And it kind of stifled some of the ability for Nitro to get into commercial work. They're much bigger than the local GCs in the area, made it harder for Nitro to get their foot in the door for some of them, obviously not wanting to deal with a bigger gorilla, someone they really couldn't push around. And so we saw a need for us to start up, spin up our own general contractor there.</doc> <doc id='24'>So SQP does a lot of work in school work, correctional facility work, do civil work, you know, getting into some small bridge work, but also what it allows us to do then is to feed commercial opportunities to Nitro. So whether that be on the electrical side, the piping side, HVAC, the fire protection then that Nitro could possibly do somewhere about 8,000,000 to 10,000,000 worth of work a year through contractor I'm sorry, through SQP construction. Also helps filter some work down to CJ Hughes then. CJ Hughes can help SQP on doing civil work, on doing foundations, concrete work also. This is one we get asked about a lot in the sense of this was an acquisition we did back in the 2022. And people always want to know why do you have a paving company? And it doesn't seem to fit, but it makes perfect sense. What Tri State Paving does is they work about 90% of their work is with American Water in Charleston, West Virginia and Lexington, Kentucky. What they do then is come back behind the water crews that are putting in the new water lines and they do the paving restoration and the curbs back behind those crews. And as the water company says, what they get the most complaints on is the finished product. It's the paving. That's what people see. They see the finished product. They don't see what's been put under the ground. So what they decided to do is the water company wanted to have a dedicated contractor that just did the paving services behind all the contractors. And so what we found then was that paving work was pretty valuable to CJ Hughes and now they were losing out on it. And so we had the opportunity through some of our connections, reached out to Tri State Paving and their owner was looking to get out of the business. Just made perfect sense then for us to acquire them and to bring them into our fold and add to our water services that we provide. West Virginia Pipeline, I think this is a great story right here. This is a company located in Southern West Virginia. Was two brothers ran it and before them, their dad had owned it. They were looking to get out of the business. They both had a child in the business too, but they really didn't want to saddle them with having to deal with everything it takes to run a business, Having to worry about having money for payroll and equipment and all that. So the water company came to us and said, hey, we really like these guys. They fit in perfectly with you all. We want energy services to buy them. So we looked at them and saw, yeah, this makes perfect sense. So we bought them and this was our first acquisition. We bought them in December 2020. The two I'll say the two main owners at the time spent a year there. And then we kind of turned it over to the two children. So Michael and his cousin Amy run West Virginia Pipeline for us. They are tremendous in what they do. Went from the two brothers had a theory that nothing good happens when you get over 50 employees. And so they ran it at a level not to exceed 50 employees for years. And Michael and Amy have come in and they have grown that business to roughly about 6,000,000ayearuptoabout6,000,000 a year up to about 12,000,000 a year. They've maintained their margins. It's just a tremendous case study for us and the kind of a perfect opportunity of an acquisition. Bryan Construction Services is one of our companies. We bought this company out of bankruptcy about three years ago. It's been a struggle for us. And so what we've decided to do on that is we are going to the work they do in the gas distribution, cathodic protection works right with what CJ Hughes does. So we're going to take those crews and blend them over to CJ Hughes. We're going to right size this company and get them down to about a 25 man boring company, about four to five crews just doing a little bit of fiber broadband work, but primarily we're going to focus on the boring work, going underneath roads and such with water pipes, with gas distribution stuff. So far, we've been successful marketing to outside customers on that. <doc id