Yes. Well, just interest expense, purely interest expense. Gary Prestopino Gary Prestopino Thank you. One moment for our next question. And our next question will come from the line of Kurt Yinger from D.A. Davidson. Your line is open. Yes. You are right on your first assumption, Kurt. It really is predicated on us seeing strengthening in the capital bookings as we go forward. It's interesting. When you think of our parts, of course, it's through the -- all of our businesses have it. But in particular, we'r ...