there needs to be enough voting control to give a strong influence, but not not so much that I can't be fired if I go insane. Um, but uh, you know, and I I think that sort of number is in the mid20s approximately. >> All right, that was Elon Musk on last night's earnings call.Joining us right now to talk about everything from his pay package to robots. Oh, yeah. And a lot of the news beyond Elon Musk is CNBC contributor Walter Isacson. He is the author of Elon Musk.He's also a Pereella Weineberg advisory pa ...