People really understand these products. We have a lot of really sophisticated young retail traders. They're trading like institutions. We actually look at their trading strategies. ZeroDTE options for example. Um, >> is that considered insurance though or is that just betting. With us now, Sibo CEO Craig Danu. Craig, first off, thanks for having us in your house. Appreciate it. >> My pleasure. Welcome. We are so excited to have CNBC on the trading floor. Thank you. >> Yeah, and it is and we we we tried, I ...